Shore excursions, never again.

johnsmith

New Member
I had the worst experience ever. My first time on a cruise and I had arranged an excursion for Santorini. First of all, I had to wake up at 6:00am. After I had breakfast I had to wait in line to get in the tender.
As soon as I had set foot onshore I was rushed in the bus with another fifty half-asleep poor souls and climbed that hair-rising road from the tiny port to the top of the hill. I have to agree that the view from up there was breath taking. Our destination was the beautiful village of Oia on the other side of the island. The distance was only 10 miles and the ride could have been an enjoyable half an hour along lash vineyards with spectacular vistas, if the driver didn't have to do it in ten minutes. Soon I started to have the taste of half-digested eggs and ham strong in my mouth. When we arrived in Oia, we got off the bus and all flocked around that tall long-haired guide of ours who lead the way up a dusty path to a small square near a church. There, under the strong sun, together with numerous other small groups, our fellow told us a few words about the place and set us free. We were supposed to meet him right there in the square no later than half an hour. Oia ia a marvelous place but even paradise can be hell if you have to walk in a narrow street with another 300 people with only one thing in mind. Where is those rest rooms he had told us about. I literally spent my half hour on a long line to get to the absolutely most important destination. The W.C. !!!
Then I ran back to the square passing beautiful small shops and enticing cafes with the irresistible urge to stop in every one of them. Again we all flocked around our guy who started to say something about visiting the shop of a friend where we would buy beautiful things at very low prices. Well, that was too much for me. Right away I left the group, found a beautiful small cafe and stayed in Oia the whole day. I had a great time and when it was time to go back to the boat, I just took a $15 taxi to the cable car.
 

ShipMaven

Forever Remembered
Welcome to Cruise @ddicts.

What you describe is sometimes typical of shore excursions, especially if you haven't done your "homework" beforehand. Did you not read the description before you booked? What ship were you on?
 

KayAnnie

New Member
We prefer not to do shore excursions for some of the reasons listed above, but I do think that in some cases, they are the best option. On one hand, you will be traveling with a large group of others who will be walking slowly and using the restroom at the same time, but you don't have to worry about research and the unexpected things that might come up by doing it on your own. We, however, prefer to do our own research and like the adventure of being away from a group. It just depends on how you like to travel.
 

BruinSteve

Environmental Compliance Officer
Not necessarily typical...

When we visited Santorini on Celebrity Millennium a few years back, we took a shore excursion...

NO WAY we had to wake up at 6:00 am...of course, you always need to look at your itinerary and what hours you are in port...Then, when choosing a shore excursion, pay attention to what time you leave...pick one thast fits with your desired timing. Also, when a shore excursion leaves early, we will often do our breakfast by room service.

Next, as to tenders, in Santorini, everybody on board, shorex or not, must go by tender...

And the bus? That is the ONLY road up the mountain...the other options are the cable car, walking or donkeys...Getting to the top of Santorini is an adventure for everyone...Personally, I don't think the road is that bad at all...It is actually fairly painless...Next time you go to Santorini, I suggest you rent a car as we did on our last visit and take the road to Ancient Fira...Now THERE'S a road worth complaining about--one lane with cars going in both directions and dozens of hairpin turns! As to the bus "speeding" on the Road to Oia, we went to Oia on a public bus...and we've also driven the road in that rental car...YOU DON'T really have much of a choice on the speed...it is the only road and, should you decide to slow the traffic, you will have lots of angry people mad at you...So, the bus just goes at the standard speed...

Oia IS a lovely town...but, there are lots of nicer places to go in Santorini...or, at least just as nice...AND there are other shore excursions that go to those places as well...Some guides are better, some are worse...We did a shore excusion that went to a winery, the archaeological museum and other places around the island...

Yes, like all shorexes, you are in a bus with 30-40 people...It really is not as bad as some people make it out to be...We've had some excellent shorexes and some I'd like to forget...But we also do a lot of private, small group tours...and with those, you take your chances as well...We had a terrible guide in Warnemunde/Berlin last summer on a private tour...We've seen things go wrong with these as well...We also know a lot of people who've tried to do ports "on their own" and end up getting lost, missing trains or buses, not finding what they are looking for...

Some ports lend themselves to "on your own"...Santorini is actually one of these...the island is not that big and many people opt to just take the cable car up and down and stay in Thira...or renting a car is an easy way to get around--and see the back side of the island, the black sand beaches, and Oia on one's own schedule...Taxis can be difficult to get in Thira (trust me, we tried before giving up and taking the bus one visit)...

But many ports in Europe really require a tour of some kind...distances are long between port and sights at many stops, lots to see and little time, so hard to organize the logistics properly on one's own...and many people prefer a guide and narration of some sort...

Always great to organize a private tour with a small group--just to avoid the "big bus"...but this is not always practical at all ports or for all people...Sometimes a shore excursion is just the best available option...and we have had some VERY GOOD shore excursions...We had one in Rome one year with only 11 people and two guides on a minibus...another to San Gimignano and Volterra from Livorno that also numbered in the teens...

For a lot of people, shore excursions show them "just enough" of the port...and the ease and lack of stress of having the cruise line organize everything is a big plus...

On our upcoming Europe cruise next month, we have 14 ports...We have organized private tours in 6 of them (Saint-Malo, Bordeaux, La Coruna, Cadiz, Casablanca and Monte Carlo), we are planning to do 5 of them "on our own" (Honfleur, Pont Aven, Biarritz, Bilbao, and Barcelona) and we WILL take Shore Excursions in three ports: La Rochelle, Oporto and Livorno...

The key is to do your research, know your ports...and match up your choices to your own capabilities and desires...

There is NO hard and fast rule as to how to tour ANY port for EVERY person...
 

Canpass

New Member
When we cruised on the Jade in November I entered the world of private shore excursions for the first time. We travelled in a small group and saw a lot more than we would ever see on a ship's tour not to mention the money that we saved. The important thing when getting involved in a private tour is to manage expectations. If you a person that like to stop and shops and cafes then you don't want to be with a group that is more interested in seing the sites. We used private tours in Rome, Athens and Ephesus and can't say enough about the quality of service we received
 

Mbandy

Staff Captain
I stay away from the ship sponsored excursions for the same reasons. I always feel like I am being hearded around like cattle. I always enjoy excursions I book through individual tour operators. Much less crowded and just more enjoyable to me.
 

Jeanie

Staff Captain
On the whole, we do not take shore excurision. Have a better time exploring on our own
 

moviegal

New Member
We aren't big fans of shore excursions either and we usually try to explore on our own. I do agree that in some parts of the world, an organized excursion is the way to go, but you can usually find an independent tour that does basically the same thing but can be tailored to your own interests. When I plan for a cruise, I usually use the cruise line's excursion brochure to get my own ideas of what to do in town, and then book a similar tour on my own. Some excursions I've done have been absolutely horrible and I hated the "cattle call" feeling. But others on the excursions loved them because they like having a set itinerary and "falling in line." I say to each his or her own, do what you love as long as you are exploring new places and cultures!! :)
 

Sodey

3rd Officer
That's what this web site is for ! Do some research first and then hit the boards to get top notch information and suggestions from seasoned cruisers. My very first cruise I had no idea what to expect and what excursions to take. So, I found this Cruise-addicts web site and people were more than happy to help out. We had three of the greatest excursions with private vendors and heard nothing but horror stories from other cruisers when we got back and were at the dinner table and bar. Since then, I don't do any cruise or excursion without consulting my fellow Cruise-addict friends !
 

82west

Waiter
WC's are a premium in Europe, something I just do not understand if they want tourism to improve. I and most would be happy to have nice clean WC available even for a Euro.
Sometime Shoreexs are necessary like in Egypt from Alexandria the trip to the pyramids is just tooooo long to trust a private tour, especially if the ship does not overnight there. I have experienced some good tours off the ship and some great private tours, like others have said, do some research, DO NOT LET the shore excursion people on the ship. most ships, they do not know more about the excursions than you do, except what is in the description
 

RichardRod

New Member
I can understand your complaint about your shore excursion, since our first excursion was almost as bad. That did not deter us from taking other excursions, it just taught us to do better research in advance.

Now, we take extra time to read about ports on forums and review sites before planning our excursions. Doing the research does not guarantee you will not run into a bad excursion, but it does reduce the odds. Since that first bad experience, we have only had one other poor excursion.

We prefer to split up our activities, too. We take an excursion at one port and then the next port we explore on our own. On our Amazon cruise, we did not have that option. You went on the outings planned for the cruise. That was consistent on our other adventure cruise, too.
 

sunluva7

Youth Counselor
Santorini is beautiful but a tough day, depending on the condition you’re in, whether you’re climbing, waiting for the bus, the ferry or the tram down the hill. I researched the heck out of it, but still was not prepared for the walking and crowds. We did the same as you. We parked ourselves at a table overlooking the ocean and enjoyed drinks and lunch before heading back to the bus. It was perfect!
 

islandgirlejfan

Youth Counselor
My husband and I have had a very ambitious European land and sea tour planned since 2020 and we are finally going to go in 20 days. We booked Santorini as part of our land tour. I knew from reading there would be no way I would be happy with just a stop there. When it comes to our cruise, the majority of it is in Italy and we will touch upon places we want to see. We hope to have the cash to go back and stay for a few months in a few years or so. I've never been much of a tour person in general. I prefer just walking around and seeing the sights.
 

Mark D

New Member
I am tired of the organised shore excursions from the cruiseliners, it feels like I have to be 'grateful' to be allowed to join on a trip.
The added price you pay to take the official excursion is so much that when you do a little online research you will find very individiual local companies that will help you out.
Last cruise we chartered a private yacht in Mallorca, just the 5 of us on the boat and we haad a private transfer arranged from the terminal. It cost us less and we were way more treated as real people then being horded on the one of the overcrowded buses.
For the future this is probably what we are gonna keep on doing, just figuring out some local organisers and get in direct contact.
 

BSeabob

Forum Manager
Staff member
Some great reading starting from an older post. Nothing much changes. Tours put on by the Cruise Lines are great starter explorations and almost always safe and a guarantee you will make it back to the ship cause they will wait for you. They serve a purpose.
 

red stripe

Staff Captain
True..
we tend to book on our own, and usually it is just the two of us, or a bus with 6 or 8 passengers.

As was mentioned earlier.. if you are going with others, make sure you agree on what to do. There is nothing more frustrating than sharing a ride with people that only want to shop and are not interested in sights..and vice versa.

And about Santorini… I love that place! Usually we take the lift. But the last time we were there, the queue was so long..we decided to go by donkey
It was funny as heck…. Einstein had the smallest one there was..or it sure seemed so with his long legs.. I still have that picture

as for me..I am afraid of heights..and my taller donkey dec to get as close to the very low wall as he could! I actually had to raise my foot to keep from having it scratched on the wall.
the bugger was leaning over the wall! It is the last time that I will ever get on a donkey or mules back ever again..
unless I am strapped across its back in a comatose state.
 
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