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Holland America typical passenger

Discussion in 'Holland America Line' started by richardhk, Sep 19, 2004.

  1. richardhk

    richardhk Guest

    My wife and I are veteran cruisers and have been on several different lines including Royal Carribean, Carnival, Celebrity ( our favorite), Princess and others. We are now considering the new Holland America ship, Westerdam but we heard that the typical passenger is 60 - 70 years old . Is this correct?
     
  2. ShipMaven

    ShipMaven Guest

    The demographics are getting younger. Furthermore, the Vista Class ships (Zuiderdam, Oosterdam, Westerdam and, eventually, Noordam) are targeted towards the younger guest.

    A lot depends on where you're cruising and the length of the cruise - but this can be said of ANY cruise line. The Caribbean 7-night cruises tend to attract a younger crowd, including on HAL.
     
  3. Jim Mc

    Jim Mc Guest

    I couldn't agree more with shipmaven... The length, itenerary and time of year dictate the average age more than the line itself.. However, Holland America is slanted toward the 40+ group... If you want to see kids on a HAL ship try Alaska in July and August - the Volendam was riddled with them, but that was a good thing since we had ours with us as well..

    Jim mc
     
  4. sail7seas

    sail7seas Guest

    The demographics of HAL are exactly the same as the demographics on Princess and Celebrity for a like cruise on a like date for a similar number of days.

    This "extremely senior" nonesense is truly out of hand and totally ridiculous.......we've been on over 40 HAL cruises and I assure you we have sailed those cruises with babes in arms and 90 years olds with walkers and everything/everyone in between.

    Honeymooners, young children in Club HAL; teens with Mom and Dad and Grandma and Grandpa and Great Grandma and Great Grandpa; middle-agers; twenty something year olds and those about ready to retire.
     
  5. BSeabob

    BSeabob Guest

    I don't know you guys. We are going for the first time and we fit into that "first mention" group........ well almost anyways.Taking 30 yr olds and 50 yr olds with us to bring the age down a little
     
  6. ShipMaven

    ShipMaven Guest

    BSea - bring your rubber duckies, and that will skew the demographics...and confuse the guests as well. :grin

    For those who are wondering about the rubber ducky reference, BSea is the keeper of the rubber duckies that began the duck saga on Volendam several years ago...
     
  7. BSeabob

    BSeabob Guest

    for sure they will be on board lol.
     
  8. ShipMaven

    ShipMaven Guest

    BSea,

    Be sure to take some photos, please! :grin They'll feel right at home aboard a HAL ship.....

    Have a wonderful cruise...and welcome to HAL!
     
  9. We had always heard that HAL was for Seniors , but did not find that to be so on either the Rotterdam( more kids than we have ever seen) or the Ooosterdam. Now in Nov we will sail 17 nights on the Westerdam and expect an older crowd due to the itinerary and length. Carnival on longer sailings has a much older and subdued crowd, Sail is correct that it is more the time of year, length of cruise and itinerary than the cruiseline that dictates the demographics.
     
  10. nmassey

    nmassey Guest

    My husband and I have cruised on HAL for 10 years. We're getting a little closer to senior than we were when we started, but we were reasonably young then (does that make sense?) and we've always loved it. One of the cruises, we thought we brought the average age down quite a bit because we were by far the youngest people there. That was the only one though that seemed to be the nursing home set. The first two cruises we were on, another couple (our age) was with us and they have cruised Princess, Carnival and I think Celebrity. They were impressed with HAL too and have sinced not cruised anything else. I think any age will enjoy.
     
  11. JOHN(NJ)

    JOHN(NJ) Guest

    The only HAL cruise that I've seen alot of older passengers was the Hawaii cruise. BTW, it was one of the best we've taken. With vacation schedules tight the longer cruises naturally attract more retired folks.
     
  12. Lady Jag

    Lady Jag Guest

    Just to throw a wrench in the theory....one of "oldest" cruises was on an RCI 4 nighter to Vancouver, Victoria and Seattle. It was during the school year, which is why it was probably so "senior". I've never seen so many walkers in my life. I've never been squished into an elevator like a sardine so many times on a cruise either. But, it was truly one of our favorite cruises. Our two sons, ages 8 & 10 at the time, loved it just as much as we did.

    On the other hand, we figured our Coral Princess 10 night cruise would have hardly any kids on it at all because of the length of it. There must have been at least 450 kids onboard and the vast majority of them were totally out of control. This was in late March and was close to Spring Break. We still had a great time, but would've been happier with more walker-type senior people onboard! :)

    It's all about what you make out of it, IMO. :thumb
     
  13. Jim Mc

    Jim Mc Guest

    Someone above mentioned Carnival, and they are correct... As I said above - it's length, itenerary and time of year - also affordability. Some lines are more affordable to younger cruisers than others. Having said that, we took Carnival to Hawaii in 9/03 and my son was the one of only 3 kids on a Carnival Ship. The average age of that trip was 60 - not old, but certainly not the same average age as a Carnival Mexican Riveria trip durring Spring Break
     
  14. I am so glad to have found this forum. My DH and I are trying to decide if we will do a HAL cruise next summer and were scared off due to the age thing. We too had heard the averageage is way up there and we were worried about being to young. We will be 40 and will be bringing our two kids ages 7 & 9. I see there are HAL kids programs and hope these will keep them interested. We did Disney in 2003 and they loved that. Also a Hawaii in 2002 and it was great fun. Any words of advice. We are looking for a veranda and are very limited on cabin choices due to having a family of 4 vs 3.
     
  15. Jim Mc

    Jim Mc Guest

    Disney Hot Mama... If it were me I would go Carnival because of the size of the rooms available i.e Cat 11 or 12 for a family of four versus the price of the same accomodations on HAL.... It would not be the age or kid issue driving my decision especially in Summer - it would be the bang for the buck that would drive my decision, oh as well as itenerary. Should you opt for HAL the catagory FF sleeps four , as it has a queen or two twins, a fold out sofa bed, as well as a bunk that drops from the ceiling for a small child 11 or younger. However, nothing is as comfortable as one of the veranda suites especially with four.. If cost is not a concern trust me on this.. Go with a Deluxe Veranda on deck 10 Navigator Deck with all the special services this comes with it is really the lap of luxery..


    Enjoy

    Jim mc
     
  16. Lady Jag

    Lady Jag Guest

    I wouldn't go to Carnival - stay with HAL. Their Category "S" full suites are MUCH cheaper than Disney Cruise Lines' and Carnival's Category 12's. We've had a Cat. 12 suite with Carnival and it was okay, but nothing at all compared to other cruise line's suites.

    Another option for Disney Hot Mama is to go with Princess' mini-suite if she's interested in keeping all 4 of them in a cabin together and is concerned about costs. They're more roomy than a lot of reg. cabins.

    As a family of 4, we've found that suites work well, but getting 2 cabins is what works best for us. It's SO nice to have 2 bathrooms!! Also, when the boys sleep in the same cabin as us, I tend not to sleep very well. I hear everything - every toss, every sigh, every turn the boys make - guess it comes from being a mom. When they're in the adjoining cabin next to us, we can sleep later in the morning if we want and the boys can watch TV without waking us up.
     
  17. LUV2Cruz2

    LUV2Cruz2 Guest

    BSea - bring your rubber duckies, and that will skew the demographics...and confuse the guests as well.

    For those who are wondering about the rubber ducky reference, BSea is the keeper of the rubber duckies that began the duck saga on Volendam several years ago...

    Shipmaven,
    I'm leaving on the 17th on the Volendam...please educate me on the rubber duckies and is there anything I should be aware of?
    Thanks!
     
  18. RockyTopTN

    RockyTopTN Guest

    I just got back from a NINE day sail on the Zuiderdam (thanks to Hurricane Jeanne). My husband and I are in our mid 30s and we noticed how we were practically the youngest on our western caribbean cruise! They were all 50-75. Maybe it was the time of year, or maybe it was the full moon, who knows but they were all very nice and were Karaoke and Bingo crazy! One lady sung "Welcome to the Jungle" by Guns n' Roses!

    We had a blast!

    RockyTop
     
  19. BSeabob

    BSeabob Guest

    Just returned from our short trip on the Oosterdam. This was in fact the start of a very long cruise to Ft Lauderdale. My observations were that there was very little difference in age from HAL to our recent Celebrity pax. In fact I would say that the HAL folks looked a little more able bodied compared to the same age group on Celebrity. Very few young people due to time of year even though the short 3 dayer segment would lend itself to that. I was kind of surprized at how well behaved we were actually.

    Duckies refused to go...Wanted more time at sea and didn't like the Idea of Vegas after such a short trip at all. lol.
     
  20. red stripe

    red stripe Guest

    Welcome back Bob..
    and To muddy the waters even more..... one cruise out of Fla a couple of years ago... it was a 11 day cruise.. But they offered the cruise at the last minute to Fla residents at a reduced rate..

    I have never seen that many elder people in my life..or wheelchairs.. or walkers....

    I think every retirement home in Florida emptied..... and the cruise line was Princess :grin

    It was a good cruise though.. and has some good points..

    1. you can beat most of them to the buffet line..

    2. and to the theatre

    3. the pools and hot tubs are not crowded

    :grin

    just stay away from the casinos
     

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