I am very curious about this and thought I would ask it here because surely someone here knows. I know they can't make much. But I was wondering how much that steward who was so immaculate with our room 2x a day on RCI made in one week. NOT counting tips. Thanks for the info.
I can tell you this....a couple we meet on the Zaandam have put 4 of their kids through college back in the Phillipines.
Cruise Directors make serious $$$$..Somebody gets the "vig" from the shops they send you to at every Port briefing.
> I'll bet that the Captain makes more than I do.
The captain has a LOT of responsibility. If you are home in bed and your kid crashes your car, you don't get blamed. But if the captain is asleep and the 2nd officer crashes the ship, it is the captain who gets blamed.
Also, you don't make captain simply by knowing what H2O stands for.
We were on the Ryndam last year and one of the sound engineers struck up a conversation, the wages he said were very dependant on the job but for example, the crew who were doing the maintenance on the hull, he said made about $200 per month plus their room & board but they are responsible for buying all their personal items (shampoo, toothpaste, off-duty clothing, etc...) He went on to say that while that sounds horrible and it IS not great, it is more money than most of the employees could ever make in their home countries.
It made us very humble and grateful for all our blessings!!! We are proud and honored to be an American but ashamed of all those you take our great country and freedoms for granted!
Cruizer , I'm not sure where you live, but where I live I would be responsible if my kid smashed up my car. The registered owner and the insured (ME) would be paying. That is why when DD was 17 I bought her an old car , put it in her name and paid to put insurance in her name only. Sweet kid, but I am not up to losing my house and life savings based on her driving habits.
As for the topic at hand. If they paid them a real wage, none of us could afford to pay the price of cruising, no matter what we make, nor would we want to.
I agree the wages are low, but for many, I believe the conditions are better , food more plentiful and the money far better than their home country. I don't feel sorry for them in the true sense as they are there or their own volition and with the exception of a few seem quite happy. It's like any job, you have to have the right attitude.
Thjis question has come up at least once a year for the last several years.
Personally, I wonder what business of ours another person's pay is. I have no clue what any of you earn. I have no clue what the checker at my local grocer earns, the counter person at the dry cleaner, the ticket taker at the local movie theater , the checkout or reference desk person at the library and so forth.
Actually, I see nothing wrong in being inquisative. In fact, this question could enlighten those who stiff these workers who work hard for their money. If they do their job right and work hard for you, then it is important to give a tip. As far as everyday jobs here at home goes, most people have an idea what they get paid. This question doesn't direct it at one particular person, but overall. I think it was interesting to see the difference it was between pay for a cruise director and for a room steward.
Marvholly I'm sorry you took such offense to an innocent question. Have you ever checked out salary.com to see how much you or someone you work with should be making for whatever area you live in? It IS a valid question and next time I ask a question you take offense to, here's a bit of advice, ignore the thread, m'kay?
Yes, Cricket the reason I asked the question because my DH and I were wondering this and no one I know had an answer. I cannot believe it when people (I'm actually thinking of one person who will remain nameless) that didn't feel the need to tip anyone at all on her Alaskan cruise!
Anyway, DH and I were talking about the great service and I said that the servers, waiters and general help MUST at least make minimum wage. To which he replied - this ship is not in the US and they probably got paid much lower. $50.00 a month even with room and board is insanely low. How someone who can afford to go on a cruise doesn't at least tip the minimum is beyond me. You just factor the tips into your vacation and that's part of the cost to me. Well that's it. Thanks for the responses. Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers, lol.
If you don't have a general idea what different jobs/professions make, how the heck can you make an informed decision about what type of work you might want to go into. It's no secret what jobs pay, just check on the internet. I know no one wants to be a part of any exploitation of cruiseship workers, and I sure would want to know if they were grossly underpaid. Though, I can't see any of them staying on for more than one cruise if they were. Don't underestimate tips. There are headwaiters in upscale restaurants who make over 100,000/year, easy. I know waiters/waiatresses who make more than I do as a nurse, and good luck to them.
It also plays a part in having unions, establishing minimum wage, etc.
Now, it would be very bad manners just asking a person what they make. You might know within a certain range what different work pays, but not what each person makes and of course that wouldn't be anyone else's business.
But, I really get pissed when my boss would fire me (and we have been warned many times), if I dare mention what I make per hour to anyone else in the company. IN my line of work that comes down to the company being able to underpay someone for years with them being none the wiser. I was being waaaay underpaid for years until my daughter-in-law signed on for the same job after 1 year's experience and got paid almost double what I did. Just who is the secrecy protecting?
As for workers on cruise ships. Some of those countries have average yearly incomes in only the hundreds of dollars. The money they can send home goes a very long way. However, while they are on ship it can get expensive. When I asked our waiter if he was able to talk to his wife and kids often, back in Indonesia, he said it costs him $14 for about 10 minutes on the phone so he doesn't get to call very often. Believe me, working on a cruise ship for many in those countries is a way out of poverty.
Here is a link to a list of the per capita income per country as of 2005:
I totally agree, Henrietta. If you don't know, generally speaking, how much people make, then how in the world do you know what profession to work towards? Where's the incentive?
I like knowing what people make and I like talking about it with my sons so they have an idea of what certain professions pay. One son is very money-driven and the other could care less. Can you imagine how unhappy they'd be if they ended up in the wrong career for them?
With all due respect, I wonder if maybe MarvHolly is afraid to know what others make? Will it make him feel inferior? Or will it make him feel blessed?
While on the Maasdam this September, I asked our friendly waiter the following:
The ship is Dutch registered, the owner's HQ is in the US, you (and most of the crew) are from Indonesa, are you required to pay income tax ?
He grinned at me and said no, he must only give his country a small amount of money each year. He has few expenses and most of the crew use telephone call cards to phone home. The phone rate is very low.
He seemed very pleased with his renumeration as he is able to keep most of it.
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I was wondering about casino workers. My DH LIVES in the casino when we cruise :lol He always gives the person "manning the wheel" a few chips as a tip. Do they get cash for them or do they go back in the pot.
Chips given to dealers all go into a common pot and they are split up at the end of each cruise.
They are pooled in fairness, some folks never leave even $1 after a big win, others will leave $5 then they get up from the table with a $100 loss.
Beware the guy that hits a big one and does not tip.....that usually means there is a waiter, busboy and a cabin steward who are going to get stiffed at the end of the cruise!
My DH leaves chips/tip even if he loses :sniper I am not crazy about the idea because they aren't actually performing a "service." Even if you win big, it's not because of the casino worker! But he has always been very generous, and that is what he wants to do, so I never make a fuss.