Some people take it to far. Be comfortable let the kids be comfortable. My son was 12 on our last cruise and he had to wear his fathers shoes (believe it or not his foot is 1/2 size bigger than his dads already). I said it once before....I made him dress on formal night and he was so unhappy and he doesn't even like the food. He is very very picky....strickly a plain meat and potatoes kid. So next time....he can eat in his shorts and t-shirt and sandals with the kids program. I refuse to make him uncomfortable again just to please someone. And just for the record...we are not from California we are from New Jersey on the east coast and we don't dress up a lot either. Just when its warranted.