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WHY didn't Carnival US/UK hire a priest, for Catholics, aboard the ongoing QUEEN MARY

#1
My name is Michael Wilcox, and my wife and myself are Catholics,from the United States..

I just got off the presently ongoing, transatlantic, Scandinavian cruise, for the Queen Mary 2, that began in NY, August 3.

We had to spend over $40,000.00 for a cruise, to find out after we gave Cunard our money, AND WHEN WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ATLANTIC OCEAN, that they don't like Catholics or don't want to provide passengers with a Catholic Mass.

There were two priests from the UK, were onboard from NY, as passengers. From South Wark, UK. FATHER JOHN O'TOOLE OF ST. GEORGES CATHEDRAL, AND MONSIGNOR GERRY EWING OF ST. THOMAS A BECKET OF WANDSWORTH.

Father Ewing was listed in the ship's "DAILY PROGRAMME" for August 5 and 6, 2012, to conduct Mass. He conducted NO mass on both days.

Father Ewing told me and others, after Sunday mass, that "he would have concelebrated mass, but I didn't have the vestments". The entertainment staff of the ship supplied the various accoutrement, including one vestment, which Father O'Toole used for the one mass he did for Catholic passengers FOR THE ENTIRE TRIP !

Father O'Toole officiated on Sunday, August 5,said Mass for approximately 100 people, ONLY ONE DAY, during the ship's passage from New York to Southhampton; it was on the Sunday, and third day of the voyage.

They both declined to say Mass for the Catholic passengers on the third day, and the rest of the voyage, where they got off at Southhampton UK.

FATHER JOHN O'TOOLE FROM ST. GEORGE'S CATHEDRAL SOUTH WARK PARISH, where he serves as Cathedral Dean, told those participating at the end Sunday Mass, aboard, on August 5, and to me personally when he didn't show up at Monday mass in the AM on August 6, and, that they "didn't have 'an arrangement' with the ship to do Mass and we were to
complain to the Purser's Office, aboard ship".

Catholic passengers were told by an EDWARD MOFFAT, ASST. ENTERTAINMENT DIRECTOR, that Cunard had a "new policy that started one month ago" (prior to August 6), whereby the ship line will NOT hire Catholic priests to give mass to passengers.

This same man, EDWARD MOFFAT told me, when I was very upset in my conversation with him, about no mass, that "Catholics don't act that way". I invited him to tell the assembled just how Catholics are supposed to act, but he declined.

On our two previous cruises with them, they did, but we were told that there is a "new policy", when the ship's line declined to give us or other Catholic passengers what they promise in their offer.

WHY DIDN'T FATHER JOHN O'TOOLE AND MONSIGNOR GERRY EWING, REGULARLY, PERFORM MASS FOR THE CATHOLICS ONBOARD, PRIOR TO DISEMBARKING IN SOUTH HAMPTON ?

On two occasions, Father O'Toole told those at Sunday August 5 mass, and told me personally, he and Monsignor Ewing had "no arrangement" with Cunard to perform mass.

Father O'Toole only performed one Sunday mass for Catholics AND HE AND MONSIGNOR EWING, REFUSED TO PERFORM MASS, FROM AUGUST 6 TO THE END OF THE TRIP !

I have supporting materials that would give you an idea of what happened. I have documentation in the form of two letters, from the Chief Purser of the Queen Mary 2, about this, that make interesting and entertaining reading. I can send you my email thread, of conversations between me and my travel agent, giving you an idea of what went on, in this issue. And I have some other interesting material that figures into this incident, that may be intriguing to you.

WHY DIDN'T FATHER JOHN O'TOOLE AND MONSIGNOR GERRY EWING, REGULARLY, PERFORM MASS FOR THE CATHOLICS ONBOARD, TO CATHOLICS WHO WERE PROMISED MASS ?

WHY IS CARNIVAL US/UK NOT HIRING CATHOLIC PRIESTS FOR IT'S CATHOLIC PASSENGERS, AND FOR IT'S CRUISES, ON A PERMANENT BASIS ?

DOES CARNIVAL US/UK HATE CATHOLICS ?

WHY DOES CARNIVAL US/UK HIRE AN EMPLOYEE LIKE DAVID MOFFAT (ASST. ENTERTAINMENT DIRECTOR, QUEEN MARY 2) WHO DOESN'T LIKE CATHOLICS AND VERBAL ABUSES THEIR FAITH ?

WHICH RELIGION WILL CARNIVAL US/UK DISCRIMINATE AGAINST NEXT ?

I would be happy to provide my testimony to you, personally.


Sincerely Yours,

Mike Wilcox
 

Goguinness

Well-Known Member
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Re: WHY didn't Carnival US/UK hire a priest, for Catholics, aboard the ongoing QUEEN

Maybe they should have hired a Rabbi also, and a Mormon, and a Protestant, and a Presbyterian, and a Witch for the Coven. How about a snake handler? Where does it stop?
 

Alan

Active Member
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Re: WHY didn't Carnival US/UK hire a priest, for Catholics, aboard the ongoing QUEEN

I agree with Goguinness. They can't hire every faith, so go before and after your cruise and quit your complaining. Do you want service on your flight home also.
 

S&M in Pgh

Well-Known Member
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Re: WHY didn't Carnival US/UK hire a priest, for Catholics, aboard the ongoing QUEEN

I would like to see where on the cruise ticket it says "will provide a Catholic mass". They provided it in the past as a convenience to passengers. They are perfectly within their rights to stop offering it. Will one week without going to mass mar your soul? Only you know that. The prayers we say, the hymns we sing, the church, the pew, the vestments are all trappings created by man. You were in the midst of one of God's greatest creations, the ocean. How about going up on deck and saying a silent prayer in your head thanking God for the majesty and beauty of his creation. I bet he would appreciate that more than you sitting in a chair on deck four and chanting the Our Father like a robot.

Just my $0.02. And yes, I am Catholic.

Mike